A handsome side by side. It has been grinded down and so lost its engraving to become a double in the white again. [Later note: Gerhard Wirnsberger has written. Sorry! These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. Very long barrel. Project Upland. That includes Belgium since making guns are big business there. Good overall condition. A fine antique 18th Century Double Barreled English Percussion Sporting Gun by the famous maker Henry Nock London, caliber 14 mm . LLH (and other Belgian makers) made the tubes used by most of the U.S. double gun makers 1920s-1940s, with Siemens-Martin or Krupp (by license) steel supplied by Cockerill. Closset J.M. Add to Cart Compare. Hammers cock and action works properly. If there is no Lion over PV, the gun was NOT proved for smokeless powder. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Counet-Leboulle J. Percussion fowler from the 1850's and is American in style. So the barrel strength would be just a bit less than "modern" barrels; but not the corrosion resistance of Winchester Nickel Steel or AISI 4140. It could be of relatively recent manufacture. Very fine sidelock double with 34 Damascus barrels. Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1 By Alain Daubresse This printed and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of the 20th century. Good overall condition. The only other markings I have seen are along the length of thr barrel \ \/ | . Share to Facebook. After 1924 fractions of grams were no longer used 1892 - present 1K355.5 17 Can't help much w/o some photos (send to ghcox3@gmail.com). I can send pictures of it. Chaineux J. . Since 1924 used on all rifled arms. Ray D, STOGERS, advertised them as being made for the AFRICAN tribes to hunt with because with them they would not be able to rebel against the BELGIAN rulers who had modern arms. It's an old Belgian made SXS 12 gauge, marked "Lancaster Arms Co." From doing a little research on the proof marks, I think it was made sometime just pre-WWI. ('Manufacturer') Home > Product Catalog Shotguns made in Belgium category Firearms/ Small arms 731 Rifles 237 Shotguns 359 Pistols 134 Blank/Signal/Rubberball pistols 1 Black powder/Muzzleloader 2 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 20 Stocks are finely figured walnut with checkered butt. I will try to upload a pic if it'll let me. Action and hammers work properly. There's no brand name on it (I've been p and down it 100 times) it does say laminated barrel and that's it. An interesting pinfire shotgun. Smith & Wesson markets gun accessories, handcuffs, safes, apparel, watches, collectibles, knives, tools, air guns, and myriad other products under its brand name, including cologne, handbags, and washing machines. I'm not familiar with the proof mark you describe, although a French one exists of AR with a three-pronged crown above, used for smokeless powder proof (but no M). I have tried to look up an 1136 but am unable to locate them anywhere. Henri Pieper (left) and Nicolas Pieper (right) Henri Pieper was born and raised in modest German home in Soest (Westphalia) Germany on Oct 30, 1840. This printed Old Time Radio; 78 RPMs and Cylinder Recordings; Top. Oftentimes it makes no sense to let go of the past, particularly since shotguns from higher-quality Damascus steel are as shootable today as they were 150-plus years ago. Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. Ateliers Saint Laurent, Bauwir Joseph Hammers cock and function properly. Sidelock double with hammers. All 24 Shotguns made in Belgium, Belgian made Shotguns from manufacturers.name.include? Bronne Gustave Behr Jean jacques So I'd guess it was made in the late 1800's. Ithaca Gun Company: One of America's most successful gun makers. Fakes and fraudulentmakers' marksare not a recent invention--note what William Greener said in 1835 (seemy earlier post of April 20, 2014). Overall length is 48". Damascus barrels are approximately 30". Today's biography is a guest post by our friend Robert White - thanks, Robert! Berleur Michel . I also looked at other European proof marks but didn't find the one you mention: compare http://www.cornellpubs.com/Catalog/proof-marks-intl.pdf. Coquilhat Aim I occasionally found two typical examples with a gunmaker friend nearby. Manufactured in 1892. Material presented throughout this website is for historical and entertainment value only and should not to be construed as usable for hardware restoration, maintenance, or general operation. Manufactured in the 1860's. If you are considering buying a Belgian gun, look long and hard atits quality. Locksare marked "Mortimer". Some sharp photos might help; send them to (ghcox3@gmail.com). It's complete. European - especially English, French, German, and Italian - guns can also have good value. It's very old but I'd like to know more about it. Since the evolution of the modern side-by-side and over/under hammerless shotguns in the late 19th Century, Belgian gunmakers have turned out some of the best. Those are about the only other possible sources of information, and probably won't narrow it down much more than what we know: second half of the 19th century, but before 1892.Best,GerryBest. Due to the This listing allows you to trace back a particular nation's aviation history in reverse-chronological order. The tubes were made by the talented Belgian mechanic Joseph Cap. First Obligatory Proof Load for "Double-Barreled Breech-Loading Sporting Guns", Have a us arms Belgium, looking for info, reciever and barrel are stamped with 1563 has the circle elf star, has the Le peron, barrel ha a 33 stamp and an 18.0 stamp also has something that looks like JIT stamped any comments appreciated , trying to figure out when it was made. How does it open? Very good overall condition. I'll test it very cautiously. Damascus barrels are 30" and marked "Charles William Richardson A & N CSL London". It's as useful in a duck blind as it is . Locks are marked "Parker Bros" and have some original case colors in protected areas. It could be almost anything: an English Greener, which would have Birmingham, England, proof marks, or it could be a double of dubious origin. We present shotguns with a wide variety of features, technical characteristics, and prices from the worlds best companies, such as Chiappo, Italy; Tar Ideal Concept LTD, Israel and the leader of Chinese gun-industry - China North Industries Corp. (NORINCO). Any info will help. Hi, thanks for the info and knowledge you provided. This continued for many decades. Their shotguns were made in 12, 16, and 20 gauge. Bouquin Ad The drawings vary in style due to differences in the original information.Most are black silhouettes, but some of those that have been produced from photographs have a quasi 3 dimensional appearance that requires the onlooker . I'm a ypunger collector/gun activist. If 'JF' it could be Janssen Fils or Frres. Gauge: 10 gauge. I have pics of the Proof marks I want to show you. Pictures would help! Collette Lopold Each gunmaker is presented with the maximum Thanks so much. This was the result of John M. Browning's lasting relationship with Fabrique Nationale, in . Smokeless powder proof of military rifles until 1903, thereafter indicates nitro proof for all types of arms. manufacturers identifying marks, more commonly referred to as Proof Marks, Arsenal or Inspector Marks Comblain - Dorther Hubert The blue is rough but the action works. Bury Jules. As you can see, it has the same sidelocks. Other makers include Lebeau Courally and Mahillon. )t/!Z $e9]DG=Ljr%@6) 8F&Kx[2l~WY7#|9&~L~G3jjV?~2SN?2&=qb'3d0W>l#G2;/|D)c~liS>2lVbD""L0M7;Q"gd)g"G{\3efBd. Stocks are good with minor nicks and dings. Hi Gerard and everyone! %PDF-1.3 Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk Aug 26, 2020 #3 Here ya go! Each gun maker is presented with the maximum of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most . Ever seen that? Comblain Dieudonn Joseph 4 0 obj The words are French: "canons" meaning gun barrels, "acier," steel, and "garanti" meaning guaranteed or warranted: "Barrels warranted steel. Counet - Genot The next guns carrying the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium. 3 into Europe is unknown. American Gunsmiths by Sellers, and American Gun Makers by Gluckman & Satterlee list American makers. x\}WT_0qk E%Mp8@S36QG7=TFx,P?wU]4v>3}wc)0~_+. Any maker's name on the rib between the barrels?Best,Gerry, 1902 a greener twobarrel it has hh on botten of barrel what do i have. This little sixteen is a fine example for the Belgian craftsmenship and will be even today a perfect gun for upland hunting. Belgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 preBelgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 pre 1898 fine old Belgium imported exposed hammer shotgun, Leige proofed, floral engraved receiver showing some; FINE 19C. Winchester Firearms Browning Firearms Browning Firearms has created and manufactured firearms such as shotguns, rifles, rimfires, and pistols, along with many other gun-related accessories. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Metal has a greying patina. Do check with a gunsmith before you shoot it! Greetings Easthampton,I have been researching an old antique pistol that has been in our family for generations.What leads me to your group was the Hits and Misses article posted in 2014; on Deciphering Belgian Proof Marks (my piece has the spelling Belgium). Barrels are nicely patterened damasucs measuring 30" choked modified. CLIMAS Tradename used by J. Stevens Arms Co. on guns. Clement, Charles Pistol and revolver manufacturer in Liege, Belgium, c.1886-1914. I have my grand dads Belgian Browning A5 Sweet Sixteen. Receiver, trigger guard, hammers and side locks are engraved with a floral motif. Bodson TH. M Mecar (4 P) Pages in category "Firearm manufacturers of Belgium" . Collectors Firearms, LLC. Marks visible are crown-over-U (final proof) and eagle-crown-over-S (smoothbore) and -W (choked). Original British Martini-Henry Rifle Extractor Mk IV From $34.95 Free Domestic Shipping on orders $300+ Hassle Free 30 Day Return Period 100% Safe Secure Checkout Guaranteed Authentic to the Historical Period Well the bore is noted in the rhombus as >>12<< and the constriction values are >>18.2/18.2<< & >>17.3/18.2<< so with those it has to be a 12 bore. I can't find any other mumbers on the gun other than the multiple proof markings that I will post later. Very good overall condition. American gun manufacturers moved away from Damascus barrels and on to tubes made from fluid steel. I picked this up a few years ago in the bargain bin at a gun shop. Colt Model 1848 (Baby Dragoon) Five-Shot Percussion . The 1KG 545 is the barrel weight in grams. SN:66436. He took delivery at the maker's London showroom on Picadilly. Pistol made in Belgium, as you know. Boden I will have to upload some pictures later when I get to my computer. The gun was restocked with a new buttstock. thank you. A complete list of suppliers of shotguns. Would that appear at this location on the piece?What Im attempting to do, is get this pistol appraised; thus the research to discover all the markings. SN:6287. But of course he also made quite normal guns for the average hunter. Please - no questions about your old guns. Check your syntax! Lige is in the French-speaking part of Belgium. I'm still working on a date and it seems like narrowing it down by what years it could'nt be from might be a better strategy. Collings Hadelin The first type of testing we will study is the Proof Test. View all posts by Wolfgang von Brauchitsch , TOY FOR A BOY DREYSE TESCHING from 1894. Belgian gun makers of that era were notorious for blatantly copying other makers firearms, using names that were close to famous makers such as "W Richards" for "Westley . A Adaptive Tactical Shotguns American Tactical Shotguns B Baikal Shotguns Barrett Shotguns Benelli Shotguns Beretta Shotguns Blaser Shotguns Browning Shotguns C Century Shotguns Charles Daly Shotguns Chiappa Shotguns Locks are marked "W.J Harvey". On barrels of breechloading shotguns after final black powder proof. Hammers cock and function properly. This one was engraved by Jules Eugne Schoffeniels. Any idea how to date it? Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! arquebusier in Lige passage Lemonnier, 11. Underlever and side plates are engraved with a floral motif. so that means it is for sure a 12 gauge? I know the bottom image. Manufactured in the 1860's. gfk0W2|Z#C7xA5 2`f)Hj'[iZWMU=|J-T `)Mtex=]m$azBbk>$QPB gTb0nnPTbj\uD`.3;7 ;U}LuB+2aki!Ld1QNUwr$Oaj9,U1Oe~N2u]6;&?a'LOe3 NIIS/\4fFIGXT[,(rN]3"!2(4YBd^VUY:;jWCJ^f"X.2X:l\d>|D}#&Ofw`Rv|$6&)M Sidelock with hammers manufactured by C.G. Fredrick M. Diss of Colchester ~ten gauge boxlock with nice barrels ~ 3" nitro proofs! and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive Inspectors mark, normally these are kept secret. The 'z' most likely is an inspector's mark indicating satisfactory quality for this part: in this case, a revolver cylinder--that's my best guess, anyway. Ancion Marx Included is a copy of the factory Ledger sheet .Click for more info. A handsome and unusual shotgun. The New E.C. Hello, I have two ELG 1136 Belgian Percussion Dueling pistols with a 6 inch barrel. The company was acquired by Remington Arms in 1934. Butt plate is horn, no cracks. $28,000.00. Action works properly and hammers cock. Quite old. Damascus barrels are 30". If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. 1839. Flintlock fowling pieces and rifles were made for the Northwest Indian trade until the early twentieth century; so, too, percussion long guns for sale in Africa. Fair overall condition. Subcategories This category has only the following subcategory. Hunting, fishing, cooking, and other critical aspects of life. The idea behind such a test is to verify the strength of the barrel, breech and firing system of a firearm by deliberately firing an over-pressured cartridge. Thanks for any help you can offer.Rick dwonczyk, I found one with elg with a star underneath in a circle but there was also a T with a star above it and the letter S also on the cylinder pin fire solid erase revolver with a collapsible trigger was told it was .31, Hi, Rick. Belgian Arms cie 1891 - present 16 Barrel weight in grams of nitro proofed shotguns. Metal has a brown patina. By Alain Daubresse. After this, the firearm is examined to make sure it is still intact and if so, the metal (usually the barrel) is stamped with . Stock has a chip near wrist, otherwise shows normal field wear. Counet Philippe . Free shipping for many products! It is a hammer back breakaway 12 gauge side by side. Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. The famous "hump back" was made in countless configurations and gauges. carefully bound by threads. Just as many muzzleloaders were converted to breechloadersthink of the Springfield trapdoor action or the British Snidermany pin-fires were converted to center-fire guns. Sorry I can't be more helpful. However, there are more proof marks that I cannot find on the internet. The 16 Gauge sidelock unfortunately was such pitted, that there was only one way to save it. Colt Model 1839. will it take normal 12 gauge shells then? Beckers G. Or any info? Arendt Maurice The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. M855 Green Tip, Didn't find what you were looking for? GunID: 4746. Weight of proofed barrels, after 1924 fractions of grams no longer used. Right hammer needs repair; left hammer cocks are functions properly. (Improved) Nr. Some of the links in the first post are inactive and can not be edited. Chaumont M.J. Lee Kennett did afine survey, "A History of Proof Marks: Gun Proof in Belgium," that waspublished in. Assisted opening is offered, as are various rib styles, barrel lengths, chokes, metal finishes, etc. Fabrique Nationale FN TPS (Tactical Police Shotgun) Pump-Action Shotgun 13 1992 Dynamit-Nobel Panzerfaust 3 Single-Shot Disposable Anti-tank Rocket Launcher 14 1990 Fabrique Nationale FN P90 Submachine Gun (SMG) / Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) 15 1989 MO-120 RT-61 (Mortier 120mm Raye Tracte Modele F1) Towed Rifled Heavy Mortar-Gun 16 1987 Shotgun Serial *Belgium Browning A5 Automatic 12 ga. Each gun maker is presented with the maximum of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most typical pieces . Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. Other than the diameter stamp, I don't see a 70mm stamp. Stock has a repaired crack behindlocks. The mark was seldom requested, Chamber dimensions in millimeters shotguns undergoing smokeless proof. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders, This mark is found on barrels and locks after voluntary semi-smokeless proof, Standard smokeless powder proof on military rifles below 8mm caliber.1898-present, Standard smokeless proof for all arms.1903-present, Mark applied to barrels which failed proof and have returned to makers for reworking. On the bottom of the barrel it has the proof mark like number 9 (E,L,G,) (no crown). Photos of the flats on the barrels and on the action would help a lot. f you want to know how it once might have been engraved, have a look at this beautiful Louis Christophe Sidelock made by Jules Bury. Baron Emile You may know how to do this: put the ramrod down the barrel and mark it with a pencil at the muzzle. Browse our collection of pre-1899 antique shotguns below. Revolver. Bonehill. Paypal, Order **DISCLAIMER** Do not use modern high pressure ammo in damascus barrels. Belgian proofs are among the oldest and have a very long history. Until 1894, stamped in .02mm graduations, then in 0.1mm steps, Degree of choke, in this case 0.7mm constriction. Brancquaert Louis ArmsCollectors.com Collectable Firearms Forums Modern, antique and collectable firearms, questions answered, gun & militaria related items. is 1.220 kg (43.00 oz). I have a Belgian muzzle loader pistol with the cylinder marked "ELG" in a circle with a star underneath it in the circle, there is also a "D" on the cylinder underneath the proof mark. Colt Browning M1895 (Potato Digger) Air-Cooled, Belt-Fed Machine Gun. You can also browse other antique pistols for sale or additional categories as diverse as Colts, Winchesters, and antique long guns. Thanks again for the help! 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Muzzleloading, breech loading, accessories, Airborne weapon pod systems, ammunition, vehicle mounted weapon systems, Gas-piston-operated weapon systems, firearm accessories, drop-in triggers, patriotic artwork, bolt carriers, bolts, upper receivers, barrel nut heatsinks, E^2 (E-Squared) barrels, Handguns, shotguns, machine guns, battle rifles, Suppressors, optics, ammunition, clothing, Springfield, Massachusetts armory location, (Special Warfare Operations Research and Development), This page was last edited on 20 February 2023, at 21:10. Bottom or receiver is marked "Harvey Exeter" and "Patent No 4395". A strong good product that will last for long usage in your Damascus barrels are 31". Clment-Neumann The second J. Original butt plate is very good, no chips or cracks. I can't help you with the ID of the gun but there countless European gun makers, many of them Belgium, around the late 1800's early 1900's. They range in quality from very good to . Category:Firearm manufacturers of Belgium - Wikipedia Category:Firearm manufacturers of Belgium Help Belgium portal Aggregate of articles pertaining to firearms manufacturers in Belgium . . The date stamps is not used on all guns, otherwise that is the most accurate. Christophe Henri In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers' Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. Audio Books & Poetry; Computers, Technology and Science; Music, Arts & Culture; News & Public Affairs; . No maker's name anywhere? (Thanks to my friend Daryl Hallquist!) significance or purpose. Barrel is 31" marked "London Fine Twist". Most double shotguns represented here. In 1899 alone, the U.S. firms of Hartley & Graham and Simmons Hardware bought 90,000 shotguns, rifles, and handguns from Liege gunmakers. What about a lightning bolt with a star above? Barrels are 32". The Modern Shotgun. ! Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Good overall condition. Savage Arms stayed busy during World War II like many gun industry members. Side by side shotguns of this era are highly collectable and our inventory changes frequently. BY TYPE. Metal has an even brown patina. I've owned two Belgian side by sides and two Browning Superposed, so I guess I can say that I have some acquaintance withtwentieth centuryones, but unlike my posts on antique English shotguns I don't have an antique Belgian one at hand to describe. Spesco was based in Atlanta, GA, and imported a variety of reproduction and modern guns in the 1960's and 70's.It would be a good idea to check that the rifle is unloaded. http://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowl m/www/home, https://www.hunting.be/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Belgian-Proof-Marks.pdf, Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1, https://docs.google.com/document/d/17yC Xntqw/edit, https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0sf7osf1dtg1s3r/AABKOd3k4GaQV_ppAci4eWNka, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGA g=PA52&lpg, http://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/en _type_id=7, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=471622, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=474548, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA53, http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/ar a%20gb.htm, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3618, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3202. Baltus - Wilmotte Description 12 GA. Locks are marked "Perkins". Mark for voluntary treble temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels, Mark for voluntary double temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels. Double Barrel Shotgun. Thank you Jerry. 14. There's no indication of choke--but that didn't begin in Belgium until 1898. The typical Spanish best gun is a sidelock side-by-side game gun with chopper-lump barrels. Applied to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium - sent to an other country proof facilities. Applied to all gun not made in Belgium but proofed in Belgium. You can tell an unaltered pin-fire by the vertical slot in the breech extending to the top of the barrel (and, of course, the absence of a firing pin). Broqua & Scholberg Just because a long gun from Belgium is a flintlock, therefore, doesn't necessarily mean that it's "of the period," as antique dealers say. Example of inspectors mark, any letter can be used with a crown. Damascus barrels are 29". Very appealing Belgian made double manufactured in the 1890's. and BELGIUM had a glut of old, obsolete flint lock and percussion gun parts left over from years past. Clment Charles Philibert John Browning's Auto-5 set the bar for semi-automatic shotguns. Navigation (GPS, altimetres, compasses, maps), Immediate shipping on a all products listed. Also on the chamber there are three marks, one which I have not been able to identify, but appears to be provisional proof? A fantastic 10 gauge sidelock from a quality manufacturer. Serial number on tang is 2004. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Shotgun relicThis is for a early 1900's Belgium made and marked with Royal Gun Works Belgium 16 gauge double barrel shotgun *Belgium Browning A5 Automatic 12 ga. gunmakers treated in this first volume are : Albini BraendlinAncion & C Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. 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