Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [14] William Harvey obituary in The New York Times, June 14, 1976. What, on recollection, strikes me as possibly significant is that all three seemed to be exceedingly calm and relaxed, compared to the pandemonium which existed right outside their front door. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the basis for that opinion? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And were you dismissed by the agency or did you resign? Mr. WILCOTT - Dozens, literally dozens. Mr. WILCOTT - My current one that I had on my counter. Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, actually even prior to the Kennedy, assassination, my wife and I both became disturbed about the stories that we kept hearing about things, control of newspapers and so on. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Mr. DODD - Was he described as an agent to you or was he described as an operative or a paid informant? Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? Please publish modules in offcanvas position. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. These companies were part of a complex system involving: (a) the state legislature, which purchased textbooks through a process called adoption, (b) the publishers, who were responsible for maintaining sufficient reserves, (c) the book depositories, which received the books, stored them, and shipped them out as needed to schools around the state. Mr. CORNWELL - Your best memory is, you wrote it on a note paid, is. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Mr. CORNWELL - What, if any, investigation did the Agency do with respect to that? Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations you had with other CIA employees, the six or seven persons who purported to have good information about the use of Oswald as an agent, did any of those people say anything to you which suggested that the CIA had some role in the assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. WILCOTT - They called me up to chief of security, the agent security, and they interviewed me on the association that I had had with the group, and then they gave me a polygraph -- in fact, two polygraphs -- concerning my association with the group of people that I met with the group. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Mr. CORNWELL - Last November? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would you read the list to the Committee? Yet their new location was seven miles south of the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35 at 8301 Ambassador Row. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. [1] Testimony of James B. Wilcott, RIF 180-10116-10096, pp.25-26. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any knowledge of any record of the CIA at the XXXXXXXX Station ever being destroyed out of the ordinary course of business, not as a matter of routine? ALTERED! It was dated December 12, 1977,[11] and, at the bottom, it had the authors full name. Mr. WILCOTT - Not until after I left the agency. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - No. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what is the reason for that? At the end of. Those generations who were there in 1963 are grateful that people like you are continuing the pursuit and taking another look at events which may have been too shocking for the rest of us to ever fully comprehend. The Zapruder Film: An Investigative Report, Project Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird And The Assassination Of JFK MLK And RFK: An Investigative Report, JFK ASSASSINATION AND THE DAVID FERRIE FILES: - An Investigative Report With New And Related 2017/2018 JFK Document Releases, Wall Of Secrecy - Inside The JFK Assassination: - How James Angleton & William Harvey Set Up An Assassination Team Inside The CIA, Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Update your device or payment method, cancel individual pre-orders or your subscription at. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. I was up to my neck before I realized it. Many notes and gifts, often created by him, are left for us as a tribute to his kindness and love. I asked her if the new building was near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35, and she said yes, on Gemini Lane. Glazes meetings with Shelley were therefore not at the Ambassador Row facility, as I originally believed, but rather they occurred at the building on Gemini Lane. You may have noticed that at the end of my letter to Alternative Views I carbon-copied to my will. It was intended as a jab at myself lest I get too full of myself rereading it 50 years from now. Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. (SIG) in CIA Counterintelligence held a 201 file on Oswald in the three years prior to JFK's assassination. Mr. PREYER - I believe you have written an article about this, an unpublished article. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you ever actually Xerox records being destroyed or changed? WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. DODD - In. This fear casting a shadow over the lives of former employees was also directed against journalists seeking to lift the veil of secrecy. He said he never saw it and said it was strange that I should possess a letter that was addressed to him. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. ", and things like that. Mr. WILCOTT - All of the people that we mentioned in the case. Larry Watanabi, XXXXXX Branch, Senior Case Officer; and XXXXXXXXXXX, deep commercial cover agent. Their whereabouts are completely unknown. Mr. WILCOTT - The first time I heard about Oswald being connected in any way with CIA was the day after the Kennedy assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. At my request, he sent me a copy. Three of the seven boxes appear in a photograph in his book. Also Present: Michael Goldsmith, Counsel, and Gary Cornwell, Counsel. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. Mr. WILCOTT - I really didn't think that the Warren Commission was out to really get at the facts, and I am not, saying that they purposely did anything, because I don't know, and maybe they did or maybe they didn't, but certainly, they didn't impress me as really trying to scrutinize the evidence that there was. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it has been difficult because people don't want to get involved, and people were scared. Which seems to be an odd premise, especially since, as Jerry Rose pointed out in his article, Important to Hold that Man there were at least 14 people missing from the building at the time; and they would not return until 1:30 PM. It was first broadcast in 1978 on a public access television channel in Austin, Texas. anyone? He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Mr. CORNWELL - At what point in time did your discussions outside of the Agency first become a matter of publication in a newspaper or magazine or on television? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, it is. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe they would at one time. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director. The two new employees were administered a written questionnaire asking about their opinions of current topics of the day, especially social issues. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, Mr. WILCOTT - Or perhaps January. During a phone conversation, he told me that he had a letter that mentioned Shelley joining the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was my understanding that Lee Harvey Oswald was an employee of the agency and was an agent, of the agency. He refused to let me quote him or use his name in print. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. DODD - In 1957? Mr. PREYER - How many people were at the station in XXXXXXXXXXX approximately? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? [4] FBI report of Roy Truly interview by Nat Pinkston, November 23, 1963, File No. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? The specific incident was soon after the Kennedy assassination, where an agent, a Case Officer -- I am sure it was a Case Officer -- came up to my window to draw money, and he specifically said in the conversation that ensued, he specifically said, "Well, Jim, the money that I drew the last couple of weeks ago or so was money," either Out of curiosity, he opened this door and saw a large storage area that took over half of the square footage of the fourth floor. Mr. SAWYER - What were some other instances? By the way, I am a Mr.not a Ms.as the letter from Mr. Blakey indicates. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir; at Oakland Technical High School, at the invitation of -- the social department asked me if I wanted to speak and I said yes, and so I spoke to two classes at Oakland Technical High School. Mr. WILCOTT - Not at this time. Mr. SAWYER - He was in Utica also? Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? Mr. DODD - And your dissatisfaction with the Agency and with the course of American government preceded the actual assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. WILCOTT - Not the files, no. I asked Mr. Peets if he knew of any member of the band who disappeared in Dallas in the mid-1970s. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I was on day duty for the station. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't confirm any of them except with the community renewal program as coming from there and I am. as members of the F.B.I., approached the two new employees at work & took them to an empty room inside the building. men asked the employees point blank if they were members of the C.I.A. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the name of the book? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. James B. Wilcott worked for the CIA from May of 1957 to April of 1966. (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. Mr. SAWYER - Was he in Utica? Just as in the case of Carolyn Arnold and Roy Truly, the strange menace that Glaze encountered in early 1975 continued to follow him through the course of his life. He was the mayor at that time. I think, or I am certain, in my own mind, that, if these people were approached that some of these people -- After standing on the front steps to see the shooting of the president, Frazier did something odd, about which he seemed to contradict himself about in an interview with the Sixth Floor Museum in 2013. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am sorry, I didn't hear. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would those summaries be destroyed as a matter of routine, to your knowledge? Mr. PREYER - And you did mention the case officer who came in and told you that the money he had drawn out a few weeks earlier was drawn out for Oswald? Mr. SAWYER - Thank you. The largest typical box for books measured 12 x 14 x 18 inches, was made out of cardboard, and when filled with books weighed 55 pounds. As many JFK researchers know, James Wilcott was a CIA accountant from May 1957 through April 1966. With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was your response to this revelatic as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? Regardless, it ended up in my files around the time we opened the JFK Center in 1989. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, they did not. CIA might handled any projects involving Oswald and for what purpose they might have used Oswald? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Give as a gift or purchase for a team or group. Mr. SAWYER - What was the gist of them? Currently he has been studying the Zodiac Killer case and writes for a website called zodiackilleridentified.com. Something went wrong. Supposedly, he fell asleep at the wheel, or committed suicide, when he rammed into the back of a semi-truck. After leaving high school he might have continued as an intelligence operative working undercover in local defense plants (plural) during the last months of the war. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is that list complete and does it have. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. [30] In that same article Rose writes that Shelly was one of the building employees who identified Oswald for the police when he was brought in to the station. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Mr. CORNWELL - But your testimony or your statements on the subject hadn't been made a matter of publicity on any other occasion? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - I think it must have been two or three omths (sic) after the assassination. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? Mr. WILCOTT - Along those lines they said things like, well, that Oswald couldn't have pulled the trigger, that only CIA could have set up such an elaborate project and there was nobody with the kind of knowledge or information that could have done this, and this was more in the speculative realm. Mr. WILCOTT - XXXXXXXXXXXXX (spelling). Mr. DODD - When you decided to release that information? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it is your testimony that, once you left the XXXXXXXX station, people, both at headquarters, in Langley, and at the Miami Station, made references to Oswald being an agent, is that correct? Confirming these observations were two more spectators, Ronald Fischer and Robert Edwards, who saw a man with light-colored hair and a light-colored open-neck shirt at a window on the fifth floor. Since the floors were not strong enough to accommodate forklifts, he wondered how the warehouse men could have moved such enormous boxes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was the first time that you alleged in public that Oswald was a CIA agent. would that interview have contained your resume of the Oswald agency matter, your statements about that matter? Mr. PREYER - And Miami, was that comparable in size? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, from May of 1957 to January of 1960 - Mr. GOLDSMITH - I take it, from your testimony, that in November of 1963, you were stationed in XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station, is that correct? Was there any dispute between you and the Agency? In the work that Oliver Stone has done for his upcoming four-part documentary series on the JFK case, he uncovered information that Truly was not being paid directly through the Texas School Book Depository in 1963. Mr. WILCOTT - It was a book that I had. I spoke to groups in their homes and I spoke to groups in the Peace and Freedom Party and I was with the Peace and Freedom Party for several years. Mar 26, 2017, 6:30:52 PM to The dubious allegations of James Wilcott, a former CIA finance officer who testified before the HSCA in executive session, are still repeated by theorists promoting. Earlier that year, he graduated from Crozier Technical School in Dallas. Please try again. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was just a cryptonym, and it could refer to a person, or it could refer to something else and I would have no way of knowing what a cryptonym referred to. The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? [8] Jim Marrs, Crossfire (Carroll & Graf. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. When I interviewed him, he was living alone with his three cats, depending for his income on the charity of his father and disability checks. Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! I will ask if you will stand and be sworn. I can't remember what it was. He is loved and will always be remembered by his wife Sylvia Glaze, daughter Hailey Glaze, and sister, brothers, nieces, nephews and friends. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was that? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is it fair to say that the CIA is an operation that runs itself on a "need-to-know" basis? Feel free to use any part of it as you please. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir, I did. Mr. GOLDSMITH - As a matter of routine, there would be that reference? Mr. PREYER - Well, that is the other question that I want to be very sure on. The home of Joe Bergin, Sr. and his wife seemed to have been a target for persecution, perhaps because Mrs. Bergin was strongly pro-Kennedy and actively worked for his election in 1960. As you can well imagine, she was quite confused because the job was low-paying and involved minor duties. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, then, really, no purpose would have been served by checking those records? I called the number of the Avalanche Journal in Lubbock, Texas and got the personnel director. Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. He passed away on November 15, 2019, after a fall causing brain injury. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? The third calm man was probably Wesley Fraizer, who stuck close to Shelley and Lovelady. All that I knowand the attending dead endswere passed along to a researcher and author in Dallas a few years ago. He was sickly looking, and, like his father, had lost weight. It has been directed to the Deputy Chief Counsel in charge of the investigation for his review. During the period, it was unvouchered funds, and my duties were general accounting, and my rate in status was GS-5. Mr. GOLDSMITH - With whom? Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, no. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. Mr. GOLDSMITH - However, your testimony is that you spoke to only six people as an estimate who indicated that Oswald was a CIA agent -- and when I say six people, I mean six CIA people, is that correct? Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? We should not jump to conclusions, since we do not know the entity that was actually paying him. We think our readers would be interested in reading his evidence./p>, (Click here to open the document in another page.). There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Retired TSBD vice president Ochus Campbell said the move took place about five years prior to the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. I have some information concerning the assassination of President John Kennedy that I wish to submit for your scrutiny. Mr. WILCOTT - I think the most significant thing that can be actually substantiated is the circumstances surrounding my employment with the community renewal program in Utica, and I was the finance analyst for the community renewal program in Utica. Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly with George Breen, XXXXXXXXXXX the circle of social friends that we had. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Your book. Wilcotts affidavit and deposition were declassified by the ARRB. Considering the far-reaching extent of control over so many occupations in American society, the CIA could very well have infiltrated the schoolbook depositories and their associated publishers. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Apparently, security measures to keep people from talking continued even after they went into retirement or found other occupations. This was all cash payments and record keeping for the station. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I know for a fact, or I know from hearsay, and I believe it to be true from the circumstances how this conversation came up and so on. In the closing paragraphs of his 1977 letter, he wrote, "I must admit that my own fear of getting involved in the investigation has prevented me from writing you earlier. Mr. CORNWELL - All you can recall is that, when you. Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly, from May of 1957 to January of 1960, I was in the pre-fab building on the Potomac in finance. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I think that I looked through my advance book -- and I had a book where the advances on projects were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true. Below is an excerpt from Harriss letter dated December 15, 1992: Enclosed is the Bill Shelley document I read to you over the phone. From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. Mr. SCHAAP - Do you mean, how many people who were in the CIA or how many people in the general population? [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. I next called John Peets, the manager of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. Shelley told Glaze that he himself was arrested for the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any explanation for why none of these people have come forward with this story? ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY Below is an obituary from the Austin American-Statesman published on Dec. 15, 2019. Mine was a happenstance meeting and short, casual friendship with a man who appeared to have fallen through the cracks. Other people who worked at the book depository suffered as well. She confided this information to Mrs. Bergin and told her that she had a copy of the First Ladys dress, pink in color with the black velvet collar. Mr. WILCOTT - It was at least a matter of weeks and perhaps as much as three months after. 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