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Frankly, I dont think one zeroing scheme is better than another. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). There is no remembering hold unders, you just aim a little high inside 100 and keep going higher past 100. If you are planning on shooting the majority of time within 125 yards I dont see a benefit of a 36/300 zero and actually see some decent minuses for it. I do this for all of my small frame ARs (except my Mod H) and it does work. I was recently reading about the 36 yard zero and would like to try it out. Using a target like the Langdon Tactical Target, shoot 3 rounds at a 2-inch circle, 10 yards away. 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You have to take your gun out and zero it and then verify it at different ranges to see what you prefer. As always, make sure to calculate the differences in clicks in your optics for the shorter range. Draw it out too. If Im at a range that is only 25 yards long and want a 50 yard zero, Id have to sight 4 high at 25 yards? Posted February 16, 2015 in Optics, Rifles by Nathan S with 22 CommentsTags: City Shooting, JTT, Making Things Easy, targets. The other 2 charts, 50 and 100 are way different as far as bullet drop goes. WTH you want to chase all the old guys away. If I need to push out a bit farther, I can just hold level with the shoulder line or top of the target for 350 and 400 yards, respectively. Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in and discuss this article and much more! Look up Max Point Blank Range, or MPBR. Its always given me good results out to the max 250yd shots I typically have, in the area I work. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Makes perfect sense, thanks for the help! I used the Litz test. Thanks. Largest hold under is 2.75 at 125 yards. Cons: None out to 200 yards. Find it here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3aAzerSPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/kotaboy32Email: kotabo. At 25 yards, groups are .7" inches high above center of target, just under 3/4", w/ rear sight set on "2"- so a 200 meter battle zero is a little better. What do you recommend as best Best zero distance for a 22 barrel? Logistically, it may also be easier for some shooters to get a 50 yard zero since many ranges may not have the facilities available to set up and shoot 36 yards. Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. If you KNOW you're going to be shooting targets at exactly 100 yards, then the 100 yard zero (obviously) or even the 25 yard zero . Only skimmed the comments but some of y'all are missing the point there is no 50 vs 36 vs 25 discussion, they all accomplish different things especially with different barrel length and ammo combinations. Your mileage may vary. I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctors video on this zeroing method and my brief comments on how it worked for me before attempting it. Compared to a 50 yard zero, its peak trajectory is slightly taller, about 4" above line of sight between 150-200 yards. He goes over bullet drop for each specific zero, and overall the 36yd zero has the closest gaps from 0-300. For a 10.5 inch barrel, the 50 or 36-yard zero will be ideal. Zero at 36, POA = POI at 300. This article will be very simple with lots of pictures. Cons: None. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} At the range I ran through some drills to work on accuracy and precision. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I'll take that. For the heavier rounds, I'd zero, as jc says, 1" high at 100 yards. To help keep things on track and provide context, Im using a SAINT Victor 5.56 rifle with a 16 barrel shooting some flavor of 55- to 62-gr. However there are many who know a lot more than me. 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SIGHTS ARE ZEROED TO THE WEAPON, NOT TO THE PERSON SHOOTING THE RIFLE Either the sight is matched to the bullet trajectory, or it isn't. Horse-shoes & handgrenades Screenshot_20200214-094614_Strelok Pro.jpg. The bullet is still rising to meet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. An RDS with a known size dot can then be used as a rough aiming guide. The old school way you would zero your rifle is at 100 yards that way everything is just a holding above the targetpast 100 yards (known as holdover). JavaScript is disabled. Easier softer ways avail us nothing. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. For flat shooting at longer ranges, the convention for a .30-06 is 2 1/2 inches high at 100 yards. If not shooting anything beyond 250 yards, then the 50 yrd zero is the best option for most people. It is about .1 MIL difference than a 25 yard zero and a 36 yard zero on the SKS is really a 26 to 52 yard zero. Put dot on center mass. Past 200 it falls fast. The black dot represents your point of aim. If this proves to be accurate this would be very close to the 36 yard zero for the 5.56 round. Has any one had experience with the 36 yard zero? Remember that the hold-overs and hold-unders are in MOA. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} Is there a comparable distance to zero to that gives the same behavior? Scope, X at 25 yards. Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. If you KNOW you're going to be shooting targets at exactly 100 yards, then the 100 yard zero (obviously) or even the 25 yard zero are ideal. Zeroing (also called sighting-in) is the process of adjusting your rifle's sighting apparatus (iron sights, electronic optic or riflescope) until its point-of-aim (POA) is calibrated to the bullets' point-of-impact (POI). 10 Yard Zeroing Target While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. That's step 1. Pros: Somewhat flat shooting.l according to the ballistic calculator. Has anyone used this 36yd zero? However, for practicalitys sake youll want a zero that is essentially point-and-shoot within your desired effective range. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. Breezy as all get out; torso target and the plastic uprights kept rocking forward as wind was coming from 12 o'clock. So this zero drops quickly past 300 yards. AT 36 you are going to have to hold under at 50 and maybe at 100. Nice But why are all the charts grayed out? Mag dumping into trash is more fun than 4 shots per 30min, however.not cheaper #fact. Zeroing is best conducted by following these steps: Bore sighting Rough Adjustment Shoot a Group Fine Adjustment Optimal Zero 110 TSX 19.8 inches low at 300 yards with a 36 yard zero. Especially with a 7.5 Just about any self defense situation is gonna be well within that range anyway. C. You are using an out of date browser. ago Depends on the setup for sure. To say it differently, where would my rounds hit on a 6 in target at 10 yards if I had a 50 yard zero? Looks like a convincing argument for a 36 yard zero for red dot carbines and some LPVO. Cons: None out to 200 yards which is a 5 hold. t of aim at 25 yards, which puts them at roughly point of aim at 100 yards because of how bullet trajectory works. The video maker above left SEAL team I believe in 2008. 95% of all shots in USPSA are within 3-15 yards anyway. But if the range of your target could be anywhere out to 300 yards, your best choice among those shown is the 36 yard zero. Rifle Specs: M6A2 PSD 8.5 in bbl. For over a year I was thinking about changing my zero from 25 yards to 36 yards. Once you get to the 4 MOA they tend to cover your target at distance and your aim is kinda spray and pray. In the offset mount do you do a offset zero since it isnt directly over bore? I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} What is the other one? Other Calibers may be used for differentpurposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. a red circle on a white backdrop would probably be . Accuracy Profile: Ballistic Advantage 16 Inch SPR. For a standard 16 barrel shooting 223/5.56, the 50-yard zero is the flattest shooting and you just need to remember that last 200 yards you start to aim higher and 300 yards, as long as you can see your target, wont be impossible to hit with a red dot. You will be able to hit within a 1 circle from just a few feet from the muzzle out to approximately 59 yards. Definitely seems like the right idea to me. It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. THIS seriously. Ill leave you with this tip: if you have astigmatism like I do and your red dot looks wonky, flip up the small rear aperture it will help focus the dot for a better defined aiming point. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thank you all for your suggestions and input . For example, something along these lines. By Does that back into a 36 yard zero? Save Share. What is the POI at 100 yards with a 50/200 zero? If you hate math, targets have the offset marked for use at 25. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). Nodak Spud Joins PSA Under Harrington and Richardson Banner: How to build an AR-15 Lower Receiver: A Step by Step Visual Guide, Maximum Hangtime: Getting the Most Out of your AR15 Zero, The Ultimate Guide to the AR15 Iron Sights Ver 1.1, AR15 Buyer's Guide 2022: Simple Steps for Buying the Best AR15, Best AR15 Zero Distances for 16 inch and 10.5 inch Carbines. . No worries! I shot a tight group at 25 and the strangest thing happened at 100. 25 Yard Zero - I don't care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. With a 100-yard zero, there is never any "hold under." You only ever dial upwards or hold over. The table below will include drop data using a 50 yard zero, a 200 yard zero, and 100 yard zero for comparison. The problem is that it forces you to have to think when to hold under a certain amount on closer targets and when to hold dead on. You must log in or register to reply here. Other Calibers may be used for different purposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Good info here. barfolopew 2 mo. Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. With rifles like the AR15and the typical ranges of the intermediate cartridge(normally within 300 yards), you can manipulate the bullet trajectory. I have an AR-10 and a Bolt action, that need to be zeroed. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to use this website. Place the target at 25 yards. 36 Yard Zero for .556? Whether thats 100 yards and in or from zero to 300 yards, there are a few viable options from which you can choose. Like many of our readers, I am now limited to my closest ranges being indoor. If everything goes well with your initial work at 10 yards, you can then use the black dot to check your zero at 50 or 200 yards since it should be relatively free of impacts. Your rifle zero is only correct at two distances. Click to expand. The 25/36 yard options are better suited for home/self defense. If I was engaging a target past 200 with a RDS, a head hold would produce a center of mass impact 39 yard zero is actually my mpbr for 223 out to 420 with 3 inch spread. The image shown is not to scale. Up to me to do the shooting and fiddle-out the results. Your rifle is only zeroed atthe range you zero it at (50 yards, 25 yards, 36 yards, 100 yards)and the second distance will be a close guestimate until you confirm it at range. Its also not his fault that that is how the APP is designed, would you have preferred him contacting the app designer to have him change the coding on the app just so Johnny can read it? 36 Yard Zero for .556? Second is the Marine Corps' recommended 36/300 yard BZO. But that is also the round itself not the zeros fault. My .02, 36 yard zero covered by a CD (4.65")out to 300 yrds. However, over that 100 yards the trajectory is remarkably consistent. Tom, with a 100 yard zero, POI will be about 2.2 below POA at 10 yards if my calculations are correct. Venture, Using iron sights the SKS manual calls for a 100 meter zero prone with just a sling. You will get effective hits out to 300. Sighting-in a hunting rifle to hit a certain number of inches high at 100 yards (or 100 meters) maximizes the point blank range of the rifle and cartridge and is superior to zeroing at a fixed distance like 200 yards. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. 2023 Springfield Armory. I've been trying to figure out the best zero I should use for my red dot. For all intents and purposes, I dont think youre going to be let down or at a severe disadvantage if you choose either one over the other. When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. I have been using a 25 yard zero for a while but wanted something that was a little less complicated as far as hold overs goat longer ranges. .Rd5g7JmL4Fdk-aZi1-U_V{transition:all .1s linear 0s}._2TMXtA984ePtHXMkOpHNQm{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:4px}.CneW1mCG4WJXxJbZl5tzH{border-top:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-line);margin-top:16px;padding-top:16px}._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{transition:all .1s linear 0s;display:none;fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:middle;margin-bottom:2px;margin-left:4px;cursor:pointer}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover ._11ARF4IQO4h3HeKPpPg0xb{display:inline-block}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs{border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._2IvhQwkgv_7K0Q3R0695Cs:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border-radius:4px;border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line)}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:focus{outline:none}._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B.IeceazVNz_gGZfKXub0ak,._1I3N-uBrbZH-ywcmCnwv_B:hover{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk._35hmSCjPO8OEezK36eUXpk{margin-top:25px;left:-9px}._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:focus-within,._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP._3aEIeAgUy9VfJyRPljMNJP:hover{transition:all .1s linear 0s;border:none;padding:8px 8px 0}._25yWxLGH4C6j26OKFx8kD5{display:inline}._2YsVWIEj0doZMxreeY6iDG{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;padding:4px 6px}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);margin-right:8px;margin-left:auto;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-errorText)}._1hFCAcL4_gkyWN0KM96zgg,._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{font-size:12px;font-weight:700;line-height:16px;cursor:pointer;-ms-flex-item-align:end;align-self:flex-end;-webkit-user-select:none;-ms-user-select:none;user-select:none}._1dF0IdghIrnqkJiUxfswxd{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button)}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq{font-weight:700;color:#ff4500;text-transform:uppercase;margin-right:4px}._3VGrhUu842I3acqBMCoSAq,.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.edyFgPHILhf5OLH2vk-tk{font-weight:400;-ms-flex-preferred-size:100%;flex-basis:100%;margin-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX{margin-top:6px}._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._19lMIGqzfTPVY3ssqTiZSX._3MAHaXXXXi9Xrmc_oMPTdP{margin-top:4px} To zero your gun using this method, you'll need a target with a small reference point, like a 2 inch circle or a 1 inch square. Thanks for all the great info on your site! Use the PDF version. Granted no bullet weight value was given so I'm guessing he was using xm193. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} This will be for both my BUIS and my RDS. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. On the flip side, if you are guarding some tower and the terrain is very open and far, 25 or 36 might be the way to go. The goal here is to begin at 100 yards and progressively increase your zero as you improve your shooting skills. If you only have 25 meter/yard lanes, just do the math for the offset. If you are hunting in the woods your shooting range should not extend beyond 200 or 300 yards. Make the charts mil or moa based and redo your anslysis. Often no time for hold over , hold under ect. Since one MOA equals 2" at 200 yards, that 5.4 inches at 200 yards equals 2.7 MOA - which is exactly what we will apply in Step Two to all other distances. Lets remember this is a speedy way to start zeroing, but you arnt zeroed unless you confirm AT the zero distance. Great summary. The 10-yard zero will suffer the least in the long run, falling to ~3.38 at 75 yards and to ~6.15 below point-of-aim at 100 yards. Otherwise a 100-yard zero wastes your bullet's trajectory potential. Been using this for about a year. That seems like a lot. JMO YMMV Lancer L5 AWM Registered Joined May 26, 2018 4,694 Posts Reaction score 12,908 The only category in which the 36 y zero loses is it produces that greatest rise along the trajectory, and that's at 100 yards (1.29"). All your load data fits neatly in the boxes under each target. unity riser and eotech reticle because 1032 yards is 68 MOA and your highest peak would be be at 120 yards with a 8 MOA peak though technically the top of the bullets ark is somewhere around 220. In ballistic ae for example you can set a vital zone radius and in the chart it will give you the zero range and max range to hit inside that radius with no hold or adjustment. One suggestion. Thus giving you 5-8 hold-under until about 225 yards. Pros: This zero can take your 10.5 AR out to 250 yards. If you want to sight in at 100 yards - then just have the shots be 3.0 inches high. Ideal for a scoped AR15 that you plan on dialing in at any distance. All Rights Reserved. You need at least a 2MOA to use it at distance much. certified instructor prior to handling any firearm and be sure to read your owners manual. Pros: Very flat shooting. 1 MOA= roughly 1 at 100 yards (2 at 200 yards.) The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly gungiveaways! sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36. I cant tell you which zero distance is the best one; thats really going to be up to you, your skill level and the set-up of your rifle. On your calculator you show it is superior. Just a fraction of an inch, but I believe 10 yards strikes a useful balance. Be sure to print at actual size. got to start shooting pistols more , sort of neglecting them a bit . From plate carriers, to holsters, to tac-lights to hard shells Having spent time in a lot of environments and with the opportunity to field a lot of equipment, I have grown fond of well made gear. I do them at 75 yards but then I don't shoot enough to speak much on this . Nice work. . Through Science! keep in mind the AR and the 223/5.56 round is designed for fat engagement. Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. Here's a table of bullet drop I created out to 300 yards that shows the effect of different zeroing choices. Hit it and move to the next target. I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctors video on this zeroing method and my brief comments on how it worked for me before attempting it. The chief benefit to using a 100 yard zero is that whether your bullet is going 2,500 fps or 3,000 fps it is the peak trajectory. they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. The original non-tapered heavy barrel is 22 long and has a 1/9 twist. The 36 yard zero is nothing new. More posts from r/ar15 272K subscribers RefrigeratorGold8291 6 days ago Treated myself after getting my Green Card, it ain't much but it's mine and I love it! 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). Your data will put me in the ballpark. I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. To me this makes the 100 yard zero a perfect choice for a carbine that will be used in close terrain where long shots will be limited. Once you learn the bullet drop, then you are left with windage which is the hard part in open country. Ian is a life-long firearms enthusiast and competition shooter regularly participating in everything from rimfire to long-range precision matches. Long range rifles are a different story. Shawn is correct based on this analysis. But by what percentage vs a 25 yard zero? At 25 yards, a 10 yard zero yields a 1 1/2" hold under. If I were in a self defense situation, with a 50 yard zero, Id have to aim like 6+ low at 15 yards? With a zero of 100 yards the .223/5.56 round will impact approx 3/4 low at 50 yards and around 2.25 low at 200 yards. Only correct at two distances you learn the bullet drop goes POA ) and does. 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